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Message started by Doodson on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 12:17pm

Title: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Doodson on Mar 3rd, 2015 at 12:17pm
Has there been any plans as to the Motorcross area?  Just wondering if anyone has come up with an idea to get a little more of a flowing track through turn 5-6 area.  removing a little bit of that braking area and turning it into more of an "S"  may encourge more cars and maybe bring back some people who have been away.  It seems any time a track change is made the entries go up because everyone is eager to try it.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Neteye on Mar 4th, 2015 at 2:29am
For me, pictures for that kind of changes are always helpful, so i just tried to translate what i understand is your idea... if i am wrong please let me know!

With the removal of the Motorcross track, you would have plenty of room for run off, thus making the track faster before turn 5 with more or less ignoring turn 4 could be possible, and it would not influence safety too much.

I can offer to alter the virtual track to give you an idea how changes could turn out. It just takes some time :)
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Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by RSS on Mar 4th, 2015 at 7:27am
I think he means the 5-6 area you redrew 4-5.

4-5 is the most enjoyable part of the track personally but i do agree a little different angle coming from 5 to 6 would be welcome. As of right now you get on the power and the car wants to step into that wall that is real close.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Doodson on Mar 4th, 2015 at 11:36am
Oh no I like 4 , Change would to be take 5-6 more into the motorcross track , "s" like
5 would be a larger arc into the motorcross and then arc back to back straight

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Neteye on Mar 4th, 2015 at 2:35pm
yeah, counting corners is hard ::)

second try  :)
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Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by racestec on Mar 5th, 2015 at 9:27am
The current plan is to eventually flatten out the former motocross area. It has already started on the east side that area. the track realignments drawn by Peer are certainly options. The ability to "pre-drive" the changes  in the virtual world would be fantastic. With the removal of the Motocross track, a change or removal of 7A&B is now a better possibility as well. The Club now has a Track Advisory Committee that is charged with investigating and recommending changes  to the facility. You can send ideas and proposals to them as well as posting them on the forum.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Doodson on Mar 5th, 2015 at 11:20am
That is much better as it will take away the heavy braking into 5 and I say leave a bit of a hill on the exit of 5 where it goes into the motorcross track  10' elevated hill  and NOW Mission will have elevation change , LOL
Also the transition to the back straight can be alot smoother , Not such a sharp angle :)

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by M.G. on Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:17am
Excellent investment. How many months left on the lease again?

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Doodson on Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:52pm

M.G. wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:17am:
Excellent investment. How many months left on the lease again?


Do you know something about NEW below water front condos that the rest of us don't? ;)

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by M.G. on Mar 7th, 2015 at 9:25am

Doodson wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:52pm:

M.G. wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:17am:
Excellent investment. How many months left on the lease again?


Do you know something about NEW below water front condos that the rest of us don't? ;)


Not quite that elaborate Mr Trump. The road course is available to have another party approach the 'owners' and take over it's operation ( ie rentals ) with a new lease commencing 2016.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Keith Robinson on Mar 7th, 2015 at 10:36am
Who is on the Track Advisory Committee?

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 8th, 2015 at 8:46am
In my opinion, this is a waste of time and money.
The track does not need any modifications in that area.  The costs would be $50 K plus. That money should go towards a new washroom facility once and for all.
It is nice that we MAY have a chance to use some of the former M/X area, but the reality is that it will not really enhance our track.
It is too narrow of strip of land, so all we could add is more slow, lame, autocross style second gear turns. We have enough of those already.
It is unfortunate that the entire property is narrow in shape.  River on one side, with a slough on the other. This makes it challenging to make a real nice road course.
The only way this can happen is if we think big and go into the CC area. Of course this would take alot of money, co-operation, and time.
Its time to stop wasting our money on this 'little' track changes.
Women in particular, your wives, girlfriends, fans in general, want to have a proper washroom facility.
If we are ever going to take the next step, and start getting butts in the stands, this has to happen.
I personally have been pushing for this for 12 years.
I joined the executive 3 years ago, largely to make this happen.
At one point, we had the funds, we all voted, and got the go ahead. I had sourced out a wash trailer, staff to clean it, and a company to pump out the tank etc.
But some strange underlying forces, always seem to keep it from getting done.
It seems another capital expense always comes up.
A new truck, a new forklift, more paving. Yes I agree we needed some of those things, but at this rate it will never happen.
As for the plans to form a new clubhouse with washrooms etc, that has never gone further than talk.
We need washrooms plain and simple.
We have over 300 members, that need to make their voices heard and say enough is enough!
No more wasting our clubs money on unnecessary paving projects etc.
If we have the money, we should get it done finally once and for all.
A new washroom facility is one of the few capital expenses, that we can actually generate revenue from as well. We can rent it out to clients and over 10 years it will have paid for itself.
My .03 cents.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by RSRacer on Mar 8th, 2015 at 9:27am
Hello Tim and club members.
                                              Tim you seem to be a little out of touch lately.
    The washroom project was slated to go ahead last season however the issue with the paving in turn 7 and 9 took precedence and it was delayed. The track repair cost the club $ 70.000 . four quotes were obtained last month and the club members approved the expenditure of up to $50.000 for the project.  We have met with the builder to discuss  final details of the build , construction should start in a couple weeks time and be  ready for the first race weekend.
We are all looking forward to having this washroom ready to enhance our facility .


R Srec

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by RSRacer on Mar 8th, 2015 at 9:30am

OOPs   should be R STEC  . I Know that someone would comment on that, Combine poor typing skills and eyesight and that's what you get.

Cheers

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 8th, 2015 at 5:33pm
Out of touch? Perhaps. I did ask on Feb 28 who was commissioned to build the washrooms and and now including this thread, still have not got an answer. Who was chosen from the 4 quotes???


Tim Rosche wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:49pm:
Who have you commissioned?




RSRacer wrote on Mar 8th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Hello Tim and club members.
                                              Tim you seem to be a little out of touch lately.
    The washroom project was slated to go ahead last season however the issue with the paving in turn 7 and 9 took precedence and it was delayed. The track repair cost the club $ 70.000 . four quotes were obtained last month and the club members approved the expenditure of up to $50.000 for the project.  We have met with the builder to discuss  final details of the build , construction should start in a couple weeks time and be  ready for the first race weekend.
We are all looking forward to having this washroom ready to enhance our facility .


R Srec


Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 12th, 2015 at 5:50pm
This now is the third time I have asked who is building the washroom unit for the SCCBC???
I think members would like to know where $50 k is going.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by RSRacer on Mar 15th, 2015 at 1:30pm

  As there are 4 bidders for the build and a contract has not been signed it would be inappropriate to name the contractor.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 16th, 2015 at 5:58pm
Why is the executive, once again, being so secretive about this project?  The membership has a right to know what is happening with THEIR money. I am surprised that more people have not weighed in on this. Who is in charge of it anyways?
Is this really going to be ready by the first race event when a builder has not even been chosen?

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by racestec on Mar 17th, 2015 at 7:44am
The 4 bidders is not a secret to our club members. Read your club meeting minutes. Or better yet, come out to the club meetings.
Our VP of operations is in charge of the project. The Club Members have voted to spend a specified dollar amount of "their money"to complete this project. Keep in mind this is a public forum. The successful bidder will be announced after the contract has been signed.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Keith Robinson on Mar 19th, 2015 at 8:07am
Meeting, what meeting? We didn't have one in March!
Did we publish the last meeting minutes somewhere? We used to have them in the Pit Pass but we don't have that now either!!
Communication has always been one of the club's biggest problems, nothing has changed :(.

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by racestec on Mar 19th, 2015 at 9:57am
By vote of the club members we did not have a March general meeting. The next meeting is on April 8. Club minutes are posted on the Club website, and have been for years. Yes the "Pit Pass" was retired a couple of years ago due to the notion that everything was going Digital and on-line. We have received feedback that many club members miss receiving the newsletter. So in an effort to reconnect with the membership, we will be reactivating the "Pit Pass". It will be a quarterly publication to start with. So if any club member would like to contribute, please feel free to add your 2 cents worth. Peter Weedon has agreed to be editor, so any submissions may be sent to him.   

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Forum Admin on Mar 19th, 2015 at 1:26pm
The 'Vote' was at the Feb AGM. If you weren't there then you had no say...

Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 20th, 2015 at 5:39pm
Really?

Forum Admin wrote on Mar 19th, 2015 at 1:26pm:
The 'Vote' was at the Feb AGM. If you weren't there then you had no say...


Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 20th, 2015 at 5:42pm
There was no Dec meeting and I had heard the Jan did not have a quorum. So I reviewed the minutes as you suggested and found all the info as you have pointed out. Tx.
Also,FYI  the SCCBC club meeting minutes are just as public as this forum. Anyone can access them as well.


racestec wrote on Mar 17th, 2015 at 7:44am:
The 4 bidders is not a secret to our club members. Read your club meeting minutes. Or better yet, come out to the club meetings.
Our VP of operations is in charge of the project. The Club Members have voted to spend a specified dollar amount of "their money"to complete this project. Keep in mind this is a public forum. The successful bidder will be announced after the contract has been signed.


Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Tim Rosche on Mar 20th, 2015 at 5:43pm
We should get the old logo back too, and start looking for real estate on the "plateau"


racestec wrote on Mar 19th, 2015 at 9:57am:
By vote of the club members we did not have a March general meeting. The next meeting is on April 8. Club minutes are posted on the Club website, and have been for years. Yes the "Pit Pass" was retired a couple of years ago due to the notion that everything was going Digital and on-line. We have received feedback that many club members miss receiving the newsletter. So in an effort to reconnect with the membership, we will be reactivating the "Pit Pass". It will be a quarterly publication to start with. So if any club member would like to contribute, please feel free to add your 2 cents worth. Peter Weedon has agreed to be editor, so any submissions may be sent to him.   


Title: Re: Track change / Upgrade
Post by Keith Robinson on Mar 23rd, 2015 at 12:08pm
Great news about the Pit Pass!!!
Welcome back Peter; please remember more local news and a little less Jowetts in New Zealand ( sorry ;)).
A lot of our club members went to SCCA in Laguna last year. Scott Hargrove is in the news again and there is a big Vee race at MRP  in July. Also CHUMPCAR CANADA will be in Edmonton in August.
Lots of news for your '1st' edition  :)

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