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IP brakes
Oct 16^th, 2010 at 10:41am

hello All, A question from a newbie who is planning to take the spring DT and then get into racing, He has a early 90s mustang he is all hyped up on modifying, I advised him to do nothing without consulting the rule books first. I am hoping that he limits his car to IP specs to start.
The car has the useless disc drum set up . Is it legal to install the 4 wheel disc set up from a 93 mustang cobra?
The front disc and caliper are most likely a bolt on not sure about the rear.

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TECHMAN Senior Racer Offline Road racing, not street racing! It's safer Posts: 166	Re: IP brakes Reply #1 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 10:46am My CACC book says that brakes are not restricted as long as they are attached at the original mounting points. The rest of the prep is as per the SCCA IT rules.
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RSRacer Pro Circuit Offline winning isn't eveything but losing sucks.. Posts: 382	Re: IP brakes Reply #2 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 12:15pm I Guess the real question is can this car be updated to 4 wheel disc brakes and be legal?
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TECHMAN Senior Racer Offline Road racing, not street racing! It's safer Posts: 166	Re: IP brakes Reply #3 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 1:42pm I see it as long as no new holes are drilled, parts welded on or axle/spindle assemblies changed you can use anything you want. A Mustang with front drums? I thought those were gone by 1980 or so.
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LoCo International License Offline Don't let this Daigo by! Posts: 606	Re: IP brakes Reply #4 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 5:51pm Simple answer is yes, as long as they bolt to original mounting points.
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racestec Pro Circuit Offline winning isn't everything but losing sucks Posts: 385	Re: IP brakes Reply #5 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 5:57pm Does the mustang rear axle with drum brakes have the mount points for discs?
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Fastist12 Senior Racer Offline Passinu Posts: 191	Re: IP brakes Reply #6 - Oct 16^th, 2010 at 6:36pm Iam guessing there is no mounting points for a caliper ..havnt checked the update backdate rules
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RSRacer Pro Circuit Offline winning isn't eveything but losing sucks.. Posts: 382	Re: IP brakes Reply #7 - Oct 17^th, 2010 at 9:51am The Car in question is I believe a plain jane 89 or 90 mustang. A rear disc set up would most likely involve a rear axle change. Can you do this to the car if it was an option or standard equipment on a better version of the same year of car ie the GT mustang or Cobra ?
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TECHMAN Senior Racer Offline Road racing, not street racing! It's safer Posts: 166	Re: IP brakes Reply #8 - Oct 17^th, 2010 at 1:15pm CACC rules say that brakes are free. As long as no new holes are drilled, material removed or added then anything goes. The rest of the car must be prepared to the current (2011) SCCA GCR. If it allows axle swaps etc then all is good. I understand that CACC is in the process of cleaning up the wording of the rules.
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Re: IP brakes
Reply #9 - Oct 17^th, 2010 at 4:30pm

RSRacer wrote on Oct 17^th, 2010 at 9:51am:

The Car in question is I believe a plain jane 89 or 90 mustang. A rear disc set up would most likely involve a rear axle change. Can you do this to the car if it was an option or standard equipment on a better version of the same year of car ie the GT mustang or Cobra ?

No, unless the car was a GT or Cobra it cannot have those axles. However, if you could figure a way to bolt adapters to the existing axle to facilitate the installation of disc brakes then go for it. Unless of course the rules change as Jim is suggesting.

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Re: IP brakes
Reply #10 - Oct 18^th, 2010 at 3:30am

LoCo wrote on Oct 17^th, 2010 at 4:30pm:

No, unless the car was a GT or Cobra it cannot have those axles. However, if you could figure a way to bolt adapters to the existing axle to facilitate the installation of disc brakes then go for it. Unless of course the rules change as Jim is suggesting.

FWIW, there's a conversion kit for the o.e drum brake axle for Fox bodied Mustangs from http://northracecars.com that keeps the drum rear end and bolts up without modification. It uses turbo T-bird calipers. It looks to me to be perfectly legal for IP. There is a post on stangnet.com from a guy selling a NIB set without ebrake cables or fluid lines for US$425 shipped to the lower 48.

I have no experience with this, or any affiliation to the products mentioned, I Googled a solution and this is what popped up. I have heard that braided lines are a MUST on these cars.
YMMV...
Martin

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