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Aug 10^th, 2012 at 8:39am

This had to be the hottest racing i have ever seen in 25 years of racing in the northwest the temp was over the top for car/driver and spectator.
It was great to see the paddocks jammed with race cars again.
Bob Williams has earned bragging rights on how to get a group to get involved ie FV and put on a great show. Maybe we can take a page from his book get get so of the other class ie FF to get together and put on a good show and have some great racing.
Thanks to Tom Johnston Stanton Guy and all the volunteers for a geat Event
Alan Grin

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Reply #1 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 10:05am

Thanks Allan.....but there is a lot of experience in the FART camp that makes it possible......Scott, Jennifer, Graham, Adam (really made it happen for all of us this past w/e) Pam, Gayle, all of our sponsors.....but mostly, all the competitors. That's why we do this isn't it? No national championship at stake, no money, just good food, good friends, some swag, some braggin rights, which BTW will go to someone else next year Wink

I like Dennis and the Pos's but hell....we need local talent next year EH?
For the VEE group of racers and family....we had a GREAT time.
If the CCGP doesn't go again.....how about 24 FF? There's enough around.....just have to ask.....
Thanks again BCHMR for the weekend....it was awesome.

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unxetas Pro Circuit Offline Volvooo! Posts: 272	Re: BCHMR Reply #2 - Aug 11^th, 2012 at 8:20am Don't worry about Dennis and the Posners, I'll be winning the race next year. Not sure if I count as "local talent", but it's better than nothing, eh?
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Reply #3 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 7:02am

Maybe you can share some of that experience with with us ie FF group. I agree it is a team effort and it takes more than one person to make it happen but it also takes a team leader to rally the troops.

Historic events have always been a lot of fun because it's all about the great show that is put on and the freinds you get hang out with (one big party all weekend). As you said there is no championships on the line. I hope we can make next year even better and the only way that can happen is if everyone gets involve promting the event and encouraging there buddies to get thier cars out in stead of just gathering dust.

Alan

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Reply #4 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 7:26am

While I agree with both sentiments, I have a sneaking supicion that, with the advent of "The Ridge", the calendar is going to get crowded.

In order to make the event popular it will be necessary to make it really, really user friendly and a lot of fun. Having a specific highlighted race group is a great idea. If the CCGP falls on hard times due to lack of enthusiasm, why not approach Chris Doodson and ask him to bring all the HONDA guys? That would provide an in to the HONDA club (it does when we have one of these at the CACC events).

Somethink like a FV race, a HONDA race and vintage cars would provide a really nice mix for a race weekend.

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Reply #5 - Aug 15^th, 2012 at 11:09am

Not what i would want to see at a HMR event. I think we need to see some of the purpose bui Grin

lt cars coming out of moth balls and be displayed and raced again before they are lost for ever ie FF Sportracers and so on thats what the spectators want to see. Its a show of great looking and well prepared cars. Spectators expect to see cars you don't see every day that's what keeps them coming back.

Alan

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Reply #6 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:41am

Sorry I missed the show, sounds like you guys had some fun. I know that Bob always tries very hard to enjoy his events thoroughly, something that we shared many times at Barnes Lake years ago.

Maybe there are still some older GT and Production cars around, like GT4 & 5, F, G & H Production that could build an interesting race group. I think Westwood 5o tried that but didn't get much traction. Has to be a few small-bore, not-quite-vintage but no-longer-current race cars parked in garages or under tarps. I remember and enjoyed that group years ago at Westwood, with the staggered starts - H-Prod. first, then G and then F and ending up all together at the finish.

Anyway, my 2 cents... Undecided

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bunracer Ex Member	Re: BCHMR Reply #7 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:54am Lorne, do you happen to know of any small bore cars that might fit that bill ? I bet you do ! I'd go to see that.
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Reply #8 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:10am

There are some older cars out there that I'm aware of, however the owners are not willing to pull them out of mothballs for just one event a year. I expect the eligibility for running the REVS series to loosen up a bit over the next few years, at that point I think it will be worth the effort of the owners of these gems to get these cars out of mothballs.

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Reply #9 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:23am

bunracer wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:54am:

do you happen to know of any small bore cars that might fit that bill ? Grin

I bet you do ! I'd go to see that.

Yeah Paul, I'm stuck in the past just like the rest of us. I'm still hoping that sometime before all of the gasoline and oil are used up to put a whole season on the track.

Maybe the vintage crowd can adopt something like the mid 70's GT/Production car classes with a cut off up to, say, mid '80's? I'm not sure where a jumping off point could be but it would be better to start now. No point waiting another year or two, we'll all be dead!

My father used to say "If your name isn't in the obit notices, it's a good day" I miss him Cheesy

BTW Paul, how MUCH would you be willing to pay?

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Reply #10 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 10:50am

I would love to see a mid 80's cut off for all weekends that there are vintage races (not just the BCHMR) - 1985 would be great, especially if it allowed former Trans Am/IMSA cars. The REVS rules would still give a points advantage to the older less modified classes which can be driven to and from the track, and I personally have no problem with that. Opening up the rules to allow for older Improved Production cars (which would allow old DRC Datsun 510's - and there are still a few of them around) would do a lot to increase grids (although there will be a year or so lag time as people bring these dusty relics up to current safety standards and do general clean up work). Of course most VRCBC members know why I have that bias.

Mike

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Reply #12 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 7:40am

This reminds me of the the days when i would hire new sales reps they would go out on sales calls and after a couple of weeks they are the experts on how we should be running the company and market the products.
The problem was they hadnt produced a dime in income in that time. If they had taken the time to see what made the company and the other salesmen succeed then maybe they would have succeeded.
Vintage isn't just about the age of the vehicle it's also about the restoration preservation and appearence of that vehicle.
SCCA has a vintage group they dont seem to care what
mods you make or the condition of the the appereance.
The last run at seattle they only had 3 cars sign up i wonder why that would be. ???

Alan

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Reply #13 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 8:00am

I have to agree with Alan. The various vintage racing groups, (VRCBC, SOVREN, HSMA, CSRG, VARAC and others) have specific details upon which they decide if something is "vintage". SCCA's requirement, which is mainly an effort to increase their entries at the regional level, is only a time issue (in their case I believe 25 years).

One needs to study what the participants in these other groups are doing to be able to accurately interpret what's happening.

Their philosophy may not be the same as yours.

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Reply #14 - Aug 17^th, 2012 at 9:21am

Gee Alan and Mike, I hope you aren't upset that I responded to this post. I'm not sure how to interpret the statement about salesmen off somewhere not earning anything. Part of anything succesful is promotion as well as product. And like everything else time marches on. Perhaps the fledgling SCCA 'vintage' participants might participate if they were encouraged & enlightened rather than not.

My biggest problem, and I will be the first to admit it, is that I just haven't made the time to get the car out to the track. I was hoping there would be a place in the local vintage arena for my car, with it's 1982 & 1983 Canadian runoffs history and FIA homolgation papers. Oh well, my bad.

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