I hope you're kidding....

I won't get into the technicalities of why that won't work. but you could use an inductive loop that triggers a camera, much like a red light camera... but we won't be mailing the infraction to you. you'll have to talk to Pam. 

Hitting a tire wall takes place off of the regular racing surface, not on it. I don't disagree with the tire bundle, I just don't think it safe or prudent to let it move onto the racing surface. fastening it down would be the safest option in my opinion. Hit it, damage your car, but it won't end up on the racing surface for some one to either hit, stop to avoid and be hit, or take evasive manouvers and hit or be hit by someone/something else.

Yes,  these exist on other race tracks around the world (I do watch allot of racing), but are you sure they are loose and not fastened in place?

Before making statements that minimizes the estimated damage to a car, please take the time to calculate the force of impact, you WILL be surprised, I sure was. I do know what it would do to one of our cars, its over $2500 just in fiber glass, coolers and tin. Want to guess what it would be for an open wheel car?

I know its a tough item to fix, and I know many things have been tried, but in my opinion, which may be in the minority, it could use some improvement to eliminate the possibility of this 600lb (est 30 tires at 20lb per tire) item from getting on the racing surface due to contact. Safety before all else.

BTW, have there been allot of protests about cutting 7B? I have seen the pit in line addressed in the supps, but don't recall 7B mentioned, but I totally could have missed it....

Flaaaaaammmme ON!

Jeff

Interesting idea, but the rope is a hazard if a car straight lines the corner. How about just mounting through the bottom tires into some flush mount anchors into the concrete/asphalt? easily removed and reinstalled if you put the bolts back in to keep debris out of the anchor hole. Steel band with a hole in it should keep the bolt from ripping through the tire at the bottom. You still have allot of give in the tires, they just wont move onto the racing surface as a unit.
I will even come out and assist the install and make up the steel.

Input?

Jeff

The problem with securing the bundle to the ground is the potential to flip a car that hits them sliding sideways.

Motorcyclists call ropes and such "cheese graters". I'll leave it to your imagination how an open wheeler and a rope could meet the same description.

Vancouver Indy had chicanes that one could have circumvented, but the used a row of tires running perpendicular to the apex but they were only one tire high. Very effective without seriously damaging a car or worse.

For those who have pictures of Indy it was the last chicane before the pit straights, check it out.

I think everyone who thinks the tires are a problem should give there heads a shake. If you are that intimidated by the tires being there the you mite want to get out of racing because there are alot more dangerous spots on the track then that.
It seems to me you are suppose to adjust your speed & braking points to get around things not pretend they aren't there.
Does this mean the tires should be moved in turn 3 because we get a little close to them.

ya, I have issues with the dangers of racing.....sure.

We are all trying to find a constructive solution to the problem of tire bundles finding their way on track, not that the tires are there in the first place. if there is a valid reason for them to be there, and there must be, otherwise they wouldn't be, I have no problem with them being there. 

I do think it is a valid question, is cutting 7b really a big issue? other than ruining an alignment and suspension damage, are people complaining of an unfair advantage, or are we worried about damage to the track and driver safety (all valid issues by the way).

Alan, Probably not a good idea to call drivers out on the forum, especially when you don't know them or their experience level. Your point would have been better served without it.

Jeff